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16. 10. 2013
Why things happen

You all probably know I am a teacher in addition to scientist and therefor I always tell my students to ask themselves why things happen the way they do, much like a person with a scientific interest is always asking himself why, why do things happen the way they happen, it’s obviously not by coincidence or because of divine intervention, at least in the majority of cases, when this same maxim is applied to human behaviour we are talking about something called empathy and here we arrive at something that is really missing in human relations, in Spain we say we know more sillyness in other people’s homes than in our own, we are probably a bit arrogant or perhaps what this saying really reflects is the lack of emphaty, it is far more easier to critisize than try and understand why things happen the way they do and maybe it’s simply the case that my intelligence fails to understand certain human behaviours and instead recognize my own limitations as a human. I have been critisizing the work of others, to me particularly the whole world feels good unless they prove me otherwise, but the truth is that it’s hard work admitting this, I will have my cake and eat it, considering humans as animals, i.e., pure and good beings.

It’s a sound though different philosophy and because of that I consider it a fact that evil can not be installed in a group as large as the galgueros, but it is rather a matter of ignorance, of tradition, something I have seen happening all my life, but perhaps because I'm very innocent, or perhaps because I'm Spanish, I refuse to admit that cruelty to animals is a dominant gene that persists in the Hispanic genome, more than anything because if that were the case I would have been affected by this very genome too and I know that is not the case.

This is why I have started talks with the Federación Española de Galgos, the Spanish Galgo Federation, precisely because I believe that by talking you can make people understand and also it’s a matter of education, our valid speaking partner is the FEG and it is more so because – and this will shock you even more, there are things that we can reach agreements upon, among other things we believe that the breeding of greyhounds must be controlled and supervised by any official body, they should not breed animals without any controll, all the dogs will be identified, will be vaccinated and will be bred under circumstances that meet their natural needs.

On the other hand is essential to show the galgueros they have a responsibility towards their animals from when they are born until they die and that therefore all those natural steps in all living beings have be conducted in a dignified and legal form, we need to breed less animals and raise them better and when the dogs reach the end of their careers as runners is when there is a problem, from my point of view we need to care for them until the end of their natural life but as that is not something that is going to happen, at least not for the time being, we need to make a choice between legally killing them or leaving them in a shelter so they are rehomed in families, because here we have to be realistic, the shelters today unfortunately have not enough capacity to take in all the dogs that are abandoned each year, which means some have to be sacrificed in a way that is both legal and humane, which presents us with another problem: not many vets are willing to euthanize healthy dogs, a difficult subject but one has to respect their ethical reservations.

And the dogs that end up in the shelter? Is it ethical for the galguero to leave his dogs there, just like that? I am convinced that this doesn’t happen elsewhere without in most of the cases a small fee that needs to be paid, for me always too small, for the always large act of abandonement, so my point of view is that the galgeuros cannot get into this process for free, nothing in life is for free and all my experiences with galgueros taught me nothing matters to them more than someone scraping the contents of their pockets, and for this a very effective way to stop the breeding is making them scrape out money every time, they won’t be dumping so many animals. They are breeding indiscriminately because, as it occurred to me, when we went to the villages to collect animals, they were training the younger dogs and as if it were a grace they were saying, 'look these are going to lead the coming year'.

Kisses, hugs, bites and loving licks.

Fermín.

(to be continued)


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21. 10. 2013
The reasons behind everything II

As what I have said earlier, someone objected that are “galgueros” and that if we don’t pick them up they will kill them in any horrible way. I have to admit that in some cases may be so, but in most it is not. Maybe it is because they have become more civilized or because they are afraid of the negative publicity that this represents but the fact is that there are fewer cases of extreme cruelty. Although I think they still exists, they have just learnt to hide it better. Well, FEG (Federacion Española de Galgos) agrees with all of this and from here we can reach agreements to improve the lives of galgos. Anyway I have been in this world too many years and I haven’t seen any improvement. It is always the same, we criticize “galgueros” strongly, call them every name in the book, pick them up their dogs at the end of the hunting season, we denounce any cruel case and nothing changes and so on, year after year. This strategy has not lead anywhere, insulting, not only in this area but also everywhere else. For me another clear example is the problem with the bulls. The more Spaniards are insulted because of the bulls, the more they will try to keep and defending their traditions and national identity. In fact because of this defense, Catalonia took advantage of the fact that they do not consider themselves part of Spain to prohibit the bullfighter spectacle (it was a political matter, more than an animal welfare policy).

In any case, we will modify our strategy, even if that means to sit and brainstorm with our “enemies” (as we say, “more flies are killed with honey than with gall”). As long as getting the money from the “galgueros” when they leave their dogs in the shelter, this is something I consider fair, as our governmental administration does not have to pay for this. This is something we agree with FEG. This money is not dirty money, as someone has mentioned before, but it is by justice that the leavers have to pay for it. Although I recognize that this is not fair for us either, animal lovers who have to pick them up, pay for it and work for them while they keep producing galgos in this way without punishment. I strongly believe that galgos must not be diminished against any other breed of dog. We cannot justify abusive, rewarding them making up free abandonment, but what we have to achieve is to enforce the laws, to identify all of them and to have a control over the destination of each one of our animals. To be honest, I am not 100% sure that this strategy will work, the only thing I know is that we cannot continue as before. We have spent many years doing the same and obviously that does not work or at least not as I wanted it to work. Kisses, hugs, bites and loving licks. Fermin .
( To be continued)

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24. 10. 2013
We make laws....

...And later on we either break them or abide by them, depending who are affected, it is absolutely disgraceful what is happening in this country with regard to animal rights laws. There are just a few but even those few are not being enforced. Something as simple as the obligation of being able to identify dogs, cats and ferrets using microchips, nobody is watching if this law is being enforced and every day we find thousands of animals abandoned on the streets or roads without any form of identification. It is incredible but still over 80% of the animals coming in to our refuge do not have this identification chip and I ask myself: if this was the case with cows what would happen then? I really don’t understand because we do know exactly how many cows and sheep there are in this country, and we are able to identify their owners if any of them gets lost but in the case of pets it is not the same, it is clear that the authorities are not interested at all if the law is being enforced or not, and what even shocks me more is when we find some animal that does have a chip and we denounce it, the denouncement ends up being passed from one place to another until who knows where, they don’t have any idea about the laws nor do they want to know, not the state security, nor the administrations nor the judges, it is a form of apathy that to me is unbearable.
I will give you some examples; Aida, a female Doberman which was left with a serious scab problem with 2 veterinary reports, with a chip so we know who the owner is and we have reported him about a year and a half ago and nothing has happened, at this moment we did not even receive any information on the status of the case.
Xena, an English bulldog with chip and we reported it with the chip number in the police report, stating that the owner is from Cataluña and the only thing the court needs to do is to send a request to the Catalonian database to give them the name of the owner, and they don’t even bother to do so, and 4 days later the case is acquitted by the judge of the magistrate court nr 2 in Medina del Campo, and I ask myself what law this judge has applied to close the case without even bothering to find the name of the owner, or do judges get to choose which laws can be applied and which not? In that case maybe I can also choose which taxes to pay and which not. And we have heard of the dismissal of the case only by chance because we were not informed either, according to them because they don’t need to do that.
We have picked up and reported various cases more of dogs of all types and colours, I also remember the case of a pickup in Salamanca, the owner was from Salamanca, we send an email to REIAC and when they could not find the owner they put the dog in our name, which is illegal because you just cannot do it if the previous owner doesn’t actually renounce the ownership, we have some more that were picked up with chip and reported, but we are still awaiting the moment where any of the administrations informed us of how the case is going. Like I said in the beginning, we make laws but we are not bothered to apply them.
Therefore we have gotten in touch with a animal rights lawyer because we cannot condone these kind of actions, never mind by whom, nobody can just choose whether to apply a law or not, or you abide by all of them or you retract them, but this free interpretation is not possible in law. We will keep you informed if and when we are getting something done on this.
Kisses, hugs, bites and loving licks, Fermin

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06.11.2013
The reasons behind everything III

It is over 25 years ago that I took the first pictures of hanged galgos and since then we have achieved that in the area where I live, the number of galgos being born has diminished significantly and due to education and information we managed that at the end of the hunting season a lot of them were brought to the refuge, and even some of them paid us for being able to do so. It is certain that no galgo is refused entry to Scooby for financial reasons, but in the residence we are trying to get another policy into place. I have to be honest that in the beginning it wasn’t very clear to me but after some discussions with the other members of the board we thought it was worthwhile to try it so we will. We opened the residencia for the galgueros to bring their dogs at the end of hunting season, Cobie would take care of them for a reasonable amount of money in return and when they would end their hunting career they would already be here and we would not have to go and pick them up from somewhere. I have to admit that in the beginning and even now sometimes the idea of working together with galgueros gives me goosebumps, but on the other hand I am able to understand the other side of the argument being: that at least during the time they are with us they have a dignified life and that is also what we are asking the galgueros, that while they are good for hunting they will treat them well. And that at the end of their working life they have a good place to go to, and the most certain way is to have them in the residencia.. Having to do all that without any costs to the galgueros seems to me a bit ridiculous, but some recently arrived self proclaimed guru in the world of animal welfare is saying that we would be receiving tainted money and that we would be contributing to the chain of suffering, but I honestly think that there is nobody in this country that has done more for the galgos than I did and even then I think that you have to evolve sometimes and that the strategies that work today may not be working tomorrow. Right now Cobie in the residencia is starting to refuse to take in some galgos because they cannot even be bothered to abide by the laws and don’t have all their animals vaccinated and chipped, and we don’t want to get mixed up in illegal activities, that would be asking a bit too much. So here you have it, all the elements for the judgement of the case, you will know which policies will work or not, I think they will and that is why we do it at Scooby. Kisses, hugs, bites and loving licks, Fermin

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